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		<h1 class="entry-title post-title">La magie des caractères accentués entre Mac et Linux</h1>		
		<div class="entry-meta postmeta"><span class="meta-date">Posted on <a href="https://blog.seboss666.info/2018/02/la-magie-des-caracteres-accentues-entre-mac-et-linux/" title="18:30" rel="bookmark"><time class="entry-date published updated" datetime="2018-02-22T18:30:25+01:00">22/02/2018</time></a></span><span class="meta-author"> by <span class="author vcard"><a class="url fn n" href="https://blog.seboss666.info/author/seboss666/" title="Voir tous les articles de Seboss666" rel="author">Seboss666</a></span></span></div>

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			<p style="text-align: justify;">Ah, UTF-8… Pendant que tout le monde s’écharpe pour savoir <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200924140524/http://www.phonandroid.com/emoji-hamburger-google-sert-des-android-burger-dans-sa-cantine-avec-fromage-au-mauvais-endroit.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">quelle est la bonne recette d’hamburger sur l’émoji dédié</a>,
 les techniciens, eux, doivent se débattre avec des choix étranges et 
des problèmes de compatibilité. De ceux que la norme Unicode était 
pourtant censé régler…</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-4424"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">J’ai mis un peu de temps à mettre le 
doigt dessus, et à trouver le fond du problème. Quant à la solution, 
elle n’était pas forcément entre mes mains mais pas si loin. Mais 
reprenons depuis le début. Lors de la refonte du site d’un de mes 
clients, il se plaint que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas une fois le
 livrable déposé sur le serveur. En particulier, les liens vers des 
documents PDF qui contiennent des accents semblent contrariants.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Pourtant, sur le serveur, les documents 
sont là, avec les accents correctement placés et affichés. Je 
soupçonnais un problème d’encodage (genre ISO-8859-15 et UTF-8, la 
bataille du siècle dernier), ce n’était pas le cas mais je n’en étais 
pas loin. A force de recherches, de fouilles empiriques comme je peux en
 faire parfois, je mets le doigt sur quelque chose : en copiant le nom 
du fichier depuis ma console SSH pour le saisir dans mon navigateur, je 
découvre une chose :</p>
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Lien créé en copiant le nom du fichier depuis la console SSH
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Oui, on constate que les caractères 
accentués n’ont pas la même tête. Pourtant les deux s’affichent de la 
même façon à nos yeux. Comment est-ce possible ? Malheureusement, j’ai 
fait cette découverte juste avant de m’absenter pour me faire opérer, et
 après avoir transmis mes découvertes, nous n’avons pas eu de retour de 
l’agence. Mes collègues n’ont pas plus trouvé de détails supplémentaires
 sur les raisons de cet écart, et le dossier est un peu tombé aux 
oubliettes.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Mais pendant ma convalescence, à la 
faveur de ma veille habituelle, je lis une remarque sur les joies de 
l’encodage entre Mac et Linux, sans plus de détails. Pour une fois mon 
cerveau fait tilt et je repense à mon client. Je repars donc en mode 
recherche/lectures, pas évident, et pourtant les utilisateurs de Mac 
partagent souvent leur mésaventures avec leur univers fermé. Mais je 
finis par trouver quelques pistes.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">MacOS le fourbe (enfin pas vraiment, mais ça fait du bien de le dire de temps en temps)</h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;">En effet, UTF-8 permet d’encoder les 
caractères accentués de deux façons différentes : soit un caractère 
accentué «&nbsp;direct&nbsp;» dit composé — U+00E9 pour être précis si 
on reprend notre «&nbsp;é&nbsp;»– ou format NFC pour Fully Composed; 
soit un caractère di décomposé, c’est à dire la lettre de base –U+0065 
pour la lettre e–, accompagné d’un caractère dit combinant, dans 
l’exemple un accent aigu (U+0301), soit le format NFD pour Fully 
Decomposed. Évidemment il n’est pas recommandé de mixer les deux 
méthodes. Pour les plus furieux, et en anglais, vous pouvez lire <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_equivalence" target="_blank" rel="noopener">cette page Wikipedia</a> sur l’équivalence Unicode.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">C’est MacOS le responsable, qui encode 
les caractères de manière particulière, et notamment les caractères 
accentués. Les ingénieurs d’Apple ont fait le choix du supporter le 
deuxième cas, mais le plus «&nbsp;pénible&nbsp;» n’est pas là. Les deux 
sont valides et pris en charge notamment par le système de fichiers ext4
 sous Linux, et on ne verra pas de différence jusqu’à ce qu’on tombe sur
 un problème similaire à celui que j’ai rencontré. En fait le vrai 
problème vient surtout du fait que l’éditeur de code utilisé par le 
développeur qui s’était occupé de renommer les documents a encodé les 
liens, et plus généralement les fichiers, au format NFC, quand les 
fichiers sont proposés au format NFD.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">Si c’est supporté, alors on peut corriger</h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;">On est sous Linux, on peut pratiquement tout faire, en l’occurrence c’est possible avec rsync :</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">On peut alors ensuite replacer le 
contenu converti au bon endroit. Peu après j’ai appris qu’il y avait un 
utilitaire dédié à cette tâche, qui s’appelle <a href="https://j3e.de/linux/convmv/man/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">convmv</a> :</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Ça va traiter tous les fichiers du 
dossier indiqué, et on économise une duplication de fichiers. L’avantage
 d’rsync étant qu’on peut le faire à distance, donc directement depuis 
la source et non pas une fois le contenu versé à destination.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: justify;">Une fois n’est pas coutume, je n’ai pas pu essayer</h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Malgré tout, quand j’ai eu l’occasion de
 reprendre le dossier, après mon retour, une solution un peu plus 
simpliste a été trouvée par l’agence de développement sans qu’on soit 
mis au courant : supprimer les accents sur les liens et fichiers 
problématiques. Bon ben tant pis, on essaiera de faire plus de bricolage
 une prochaine fois. Ça m’a toutefois donné l’occasion de vous apprendre
 un ou deux trucs sur Unicode 🙂</p>
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					<p>Personnellement j’applique une règle que l’on m’a toujours 
conseillé en matière de web : Pas d’accents, de majuscules, d’espaces ou
 de caractères spéciaux dans les noms de fichier.<br>
C’est encore le plus simple et on est sur que ça fonctionne sur n’importe quel serveur web. 😉</p>

					
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					<p>Je suis tout à fait d’accord avec LolYangccool, c’est la règle 
que j’ai toujours appliquée à tous mes fichiers (pas seulement dans un 
contexte web) quelle que soit la plateforme (Windows, Unix, Linux, 
etc.).<br>
Pour un bon fonctionnement du système de gestion de fichier et de tous 
les outils associés (y compris les outils de recherche de fichier et de 
backup), il est plus que recommandé de ne pas faire dans l’exotisme, 
c’est-à-dire pas d’accent, ni de cédille, de tréma, et autres 
particularité linguistique (Å, Æ, Ø, å, æ, ø, …), pas de #, ni de &amp;,
 etc.<br>
Pour ma défense, je suis issue d’une époque informatique que les plus jeunes d’entre nous n’ont pas connue …</p>

					
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					<p>Bah depuis mes OSs ont UTF-8 comme encodage par défaut, je mets 
des espaces et autant de caractères exotiques autorisés que je le 
souhaite…j’suis pas une machine, mais un humain avec des yeux sensibles.
 Bilan: pas de souci particulier depuis, ni aux yeux ni avec la 
navigation et l’exploitation des fichiers.<br>
Pis j’ai une règle avec l’informatique, tant que c’est possible, à la machine de s’adapter à l’humain et pas l’inverse.</p>
<p>Pour ce qui concerne le Web…là j’applique la règle de la prudence: comme LolYangccool.</p>

					
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					<p>Ah ! J’ai eu le souci il y a quelques mois en devant récupérer 
des archives créées sur mac… Pas eu d’autre choix que de demander à 
l’auteur de supprimer les accents…<br>
Ce qu’il a fait bien gentiment.<br>
Désormais j’ai une solution !<br>
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					<p>J’ai eu un problème du genre l’autre jour avec les caractères 
accentués (caractères diacritiques). J’avais posé une question sur SO, 
mais personne n’avait volé à mon secours<br>
<a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48523029/how-to-convert-combining-diacritical-marks-to-single-grapheme" rel="nofollow ugc">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48523029/how-to-convert-combining-diacritical-marks-to-single-grapheme</a></p>

					
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					<p>Petite faute de frappe «&nbsp;Apple ont fait le choix du supporter&nbsp;»</p>

					
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					<p>Euh, c’est écrit «&nbsp;les ingénieurs d’Apple ont fait le choix&nbsp;», jusqu’à maintenant c’est pluriel les ingénieurs 😀</p>

					
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					<p>Alors si on change de sujet pour passer au français correct, je 
dois dire que ce que j’ai du mal à supporter (sic), c’est l’utilisation 
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